A few new Peter Laings to ID

 

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Peter Laing 15mm Prussian Landwehr F15 on the left – but who are the artillery men with similar hats? Now identified by Tony Kitchen and Ross MacFarlane as Crimean Russian Artillery  with port fire A807  and sponge A806. Almost possible to convert A807 to an officer with a sword.

 

Occasionally very tiny mixed groups of Peter Laing figures turn up on auction sites or second hand figure sales websites. Sometimes the figures are identified, sometimes not.

I recently bought  a group of 18 mixed foot and 2 cavalry – but only recognise a few of them.

 

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These figures have a colonial air … the one with the musket (left) has almost a bun or pigtail. Mahdists or Dervishes with spear and sword ? Or Boxers? These two groups were interchangeable in the Peter Laing catalogue.

Maybe the Google plus Peter Laing group or my blog readers could help me identify these figures?

Some of the native figures may be Mahdists or Dervishes with spear and sword ? Or are they Boxers? These two groups were interchangeable in the Peter Laing range, even appearing as “Suitable Items from Other Ranges” within the same range where Peter suggested F628 Dervish with Spear could be Boxer with Spear.

Ross MacFarlane suggested in the comments: “The others look like Mahdists to me. F612, F628, F629. Your pigtail is probably the tail of the turban which was often left to dangle down the neck. The armoured cavalry looks like M608 Armoured Dervish cavalry. Thanks,  Ross!

Ian Dury wrote:  Just to confirm Ross’ views on the Colonial and Crimean figures – they are indeed:
F612 (Mahdist) Jihadia rifeleman
F628 Dervish with spear
F628 Dervish with raised sword
M608 Dervish Armoured Horseman
A806 Russian Gunner, sponge
A807 Russian Gunner, Portfire

 

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A few have some paintwork, suggestive of the colourful patches of Dervishes.

The few details on these tiny 15mm figures made them very versatile for paint conversions to other periods or armies.

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The Zulu I recognise but the armoured cavalryman? Mounted Norman? Back view of the Prussian Landwehr.

A few I already recognise like the Zulu, probably F620 advancing raised assegai or F626 Zulu running.

Ross MacFarlane thinks: “The armoured cavalry looks like M608 Armoured Dervish cavalry”   which makes more sense in the colonial company it is keeping. I thought at first it might be weird Mounted Norman …

Any help identifying this small random group of Peter Laing figures is much appreciated.

B.P.S. Blog Post Script – Prussian or Russian?

In his comment, Ross thinks that the infantryman has the look of a Crimean Russian infantryman, rather than Prussian Landwehr. This is a sensible suggestion with it being lumped in with stray Crimean Russian gunners.

This would probably make it F824 Russian infantry advancing (cap)?

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Hopefully someone with Waterloo Prussian or Crimean Russian Peter Laing figures  might have thoughts on this.

Ian Dury’s fine collection of Peter Laing  Crimean Russian figures in caps advancing are shown here on Bob Cordery’s blog

http://wargamingmiscellany.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/in-praise-of-peter-laing-miniatures_3.html

Just as the Russian gunner figures look like they have long coats and /or baggy breeches, these figures in Ian’s photographs look to have slightly  longer baggy coats. We are only talking a difference of up to a millimetre!

The new unpainted figure is so close to one that I bought from Peter Laing as samples of his Waterloo range in the 1980s that I think the figures, if not the same, are pretty much interchangeable – a bonus really for building up an army!

I photographed my Waterloo Prussians alongside  for comparison.

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The full extent of my Prussian intervention in a Waterloo setting  is currently shown here – tremble, tiny Napoleon!

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Peter Laing 15mm Napoleonic Prussians F12 Infantry advancing, F14 Officer, F13 drummer and then F15 Prussian Landwehr advancing – next to the unpainted  new figure – and F16 Prussian Landwehr firing.

I am still slightly swayed towards the figure being Napoleonic Prussian rather than Crimean Russian. However it is  close enough to the Crimean Russian figures in Ian Dury’s photographs that, thanks to Ross’s suggestion, I could easily use these Landwehr type figures for Crimean War scenarios.

Blogposted by Mark, Man of TIN, 17 September 2017

 

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Author: 26soldiersoftin

Hello I'm Mark Mr MIN, Man of TIN. Based in S.W. Britain, I'm a lifelong collector of "tiny men" and old toy soldiers, whether tin, lead or childhood vintage 1960s and 1970s plastic figures. I randomly collect all scales and periods and "imagi-nations" as well as lead civilians, farm and zoo animals. I enjoy the paint possibilities of cheap poundstore plastic figures as much as the patina of vintage metal figures. Befuddled by the maths of complex boardgames and wargames, I prefer the small scale skirmish simplicity of very early Donald Featherstone rules. To relax, I usually play solo games, often using hex boards. Gaming takes second place to making or convert my own gaming figures from polymer clay (Fimo), home-cast metal figures of many scales or plastic paint conversions. I also collect and game with vintage Peter Laing 15mm metal figures, wishing like many others that I had bought more in the 1980s ...

6 thoughts on “A few new Peter Laings to ID”

  1. Testing resting 1…2….3 I think I may have found a new way to comment, responding to an email notification rather than on site.

    The artillery in the first picture are Crimean Russian, that is a portfire. However, from here, it looks to me like your Landwehr might actually be a Crimean Russian infantryman in turned back greatcoat and forage cap though.

    The others look like Mahdists to me. F612, 628,629. Your pigtail is probably the tail of the turban which was often left to dangle down the neck. The armoured cavalry looks like M608 Armoured Dervish cavalry (they used to be common wargame figures but are now seen to have been a mistaken identification of occasional Emirs)

    PS I love this sort of exercise, best in person but even on line.

    Ross

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    1. Ross
      Thanks very much for all your ID suggestions and help. I think I shall find a paint scheme where my few Mahdists can double as Boxers, as Peter suggested in his catalogue, until reinforcements arrive – part of the joy of Peter Laing figures.
      Similarly you now have me wondering about my Prussian or Russian, so I will photograph both tonight with my Waterloo Prussians.
      Mark Man of TIN

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    2. Hi Mark – Just to confirm Ross’ views on the Colonial and Crimean figures – they are indeed:
      F612 (Mahdist) Jihadia rifeleman
      F628 Dervish with spear
      F628 Dervish with raised sword
      M608 Dervish Armoured Horseman
      A806 Russian Gunner, sponge
      A807 Russian Gunner, Portfire
      The other figure though is a Napoleonic Prussian Landwehr Advancing, F15. By comparison, the Crimean Russian has an ankle length coat and a smaller pack. I haven’t got any good close up pictures of one at the moment, but I will take some
      Ian

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      1. Thanks Ian (and to Ross and Tony) for your help with ID and to have my speculations confirmed. Interesting new little bunch of figures to paint up. The Russian / Prussian similarity is useful for doubling up figures with limited forces.
        Mark, Man of TIN

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