Another lucky bid online for a few pounds brought this haul of battered and colourful American Indians.
17N Britain’s brave with rifle or the similar posed John Hill Co. (JohillCo) post War Indian on Guard.
I wanted to pick up a cheap and colourful opponent for my Redcoats or Bluecoat Troops, a wily native ally to match my Zulus.
A few broken spears and rifles are no problem to fix.
These rifle, bow and spear toting native warriors should prove great for garden and tabletop games once repaired and mounted on tuppenny bases. They are almost perfect for Donald Featherstone’s simple Close Wars skirmish rules (in his appendix to his War Games 1962).
More correctly these figure should be known today as Native Americans, First Nations or First Peoples but the ones you can see here are pure Imagi-Nations, wily natives straight out of Hollywood B Movies and Wild West TV shows.
A mixture of makers – Johillco, Britains and Crescent 50 and 54mm. Bottom row 2 is a slim thin Crescent 1950s die cast, covered in cracks. FiguresA wide variety of figures from a range of makers: top left first 2 Britain’s figures , top row 3,4 and 6 are otherwise Crescent 1950s. Bottom right damaged Timpo archers, 1950s.
Nicely animated crawling Braves sneaking up on an unwary opponent!
I get the feeling that some manufacturers might have quite enjoyed sculpting the animated poses and bright colours after producing regiment after regiment of increasingly khaki figures.
I’m sure after World War 1 these Indians also fitted a need to get away from the reality and aftermath of modern war off and away to the lawless and heroic but imaginary frontiers of the ‘Wild Wild West’, so popular in its many formats in fiction, cinema and Buffalo Bill shows.
1950s Timpo Indian Drummer (left) and Crescent chief seated right (prewar?) Johillco Indian with Tomahawk (postwar)Right – Johillco crawling Indian.Not a Red Indian more of a bronzed one with this unusual red bronze metallic painted skin tone – Crescent 1950s figure with broken rifle. I have also seen this paint finish used on Crescent postwar American GI mortar crew troops stripped to the waist that may have suggested African Americans?An animated Indian Chief figure on the hunt from William Britain 16N Crown Range of figuresElaborate head dress on a Britain’s chief or Medicine Man with Tomahawk on movable arm (Pre and post war).Fine Crescent 1950s Indian chief dancing with shield minus tomahawk and (right) medicine man with snake curled up leg!
A curious hole which may have held a pin to attach a shield? Not sure of maker yet.
Two of the T and B (Taylor and Barrett) figures were a bit smaller scale, around 40mm. They blend quite well with the 40mm Holger Erickson Prince August Homecast moulds.
Taylor and Barrett Indians can be seen alongside my home cast and based 40mm Prince August figures.
ID of figures based on figure markings and Norman Joplin’s wonderful The Great Book of Hollowcast Figures.
Hello I'm Mark Mr MIN, Man of TIN. Based in S.W. Britain, I'm a lifelong collector of "tiny men" and old toy soldiers, whether tin, lead or childhood vintage 1960s and 1970s plastic figures.
I randomly collect all scales and periods and "imagi-nations" as well as lead civilians, farm and zoo animals. I enjoy the paint possibilities of cheap poundstore plastic figures as much as the patina of vintage metal figures.
Befuddled by the maths of complex boardgames and wargames, I prefer the small scale skirmish simplicity of very early Donald Featherstone rules.
To relax, I usually play solo games, often using hex boards. Gaming takes second place to making or convert my own gaming figures from polymer clay (Fimo), home-cast metal figures of many scales or plastic paint conversions. I also collect and game with vintage Peter Laing 15mm metal figures, wishing like many others that I had bought more in the 1980s ...
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12 thoughts on “American Indians First Nations or Imagi-Nations?”
Great purchase, Mark. A very colourful and animated bunch of figures! Interesting to see the different interpretations of what these figures should look like.
Incidentally, I studied a module at university called “Native American History”, only to find that one of my friends – a fellow student and an Iroquois from the US – preferred to be identified the term Indian rather than Native American. So it’s a complex issue!
Marvin
I am increasingly under the unrealistic Hollywood / nursery Gloss colourful thrall of 1950s Indians and may “restore” them with these unconvincing colours and red gold bronze metallic paint Crescent Figures skin tones. Britain’s tended to colour their Irregular troops clothes into three colours. Red yellow blue etc.
There are good Gloss toy soldier Indians such as William Hocker (Online). I saw them for sale / see them at the fabulous Guards Museum toy soldier shop Birdcage Walk guards barracks London).
Native American / Indians? Naming of any ethnic or other minority is always complex especially if it’s is being proudly or defiantly (deviantly?) reclaimed by that group but only permissible for use by themselves. A linguistic and cultural minefield …
Good Haul!
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All these for under £10 including postage. Simple joy!
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A fantastic collection. I look forward to seeing them fixed up and painted. I especially like the crawling Indians. As you say, very animated.
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They’re behind you …
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I look forward to the results. The one with the hole might have been shot with an air rifle!
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Thanks James, More fun for the repair (games) table. Interesting idea re. the neat hole. Haven’t found a manufacturer yet.
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A nice collection with some interesting poses there, looks like you’ve got a lot of work ahead of you!
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More fun on the repair table! I look forward to getting them out in the garden …
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Excellent purchase Mark – a worthy opponent to your Red-Coats
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Thanks Jack, a worthy and wily opposition.
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Great purchase, Mark. A very colourful and animated bunch of figures! Interesting to see the different interpretations of what these figures should look like.
Incidentally, I studied a module at university called “Native American History”, only to find that one of my friends – a fellow student and an Iroquois from the US – preferred to be identified the term Indian rather than Native American. So it’s a complex issue!
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Marvin
I am increasingly under the unrealistic Hollywood / nursery Gloss colourful thrall of 1950s Indians and may “restore” them with these unconvincing colours and red gold bronze metallic paint Crescent Figures skin tones. Britain’s tended to colour their Irregular troops clothes into three colours. Red yellow blue etc.
There are good Gloss toy soldier Indians such as William Hocker (Online). I saw them for sale / see them at the fabulous Guards Museum toy soldier shop Birdcage Walk guards barracks London).
Native American / Indians? Naming of any ethnic or other minority is always complex especially if it’s is being proudly or defiantly (deviantly?) reclaimed by that group but only permissible for use by themselves. A linguistic and cultural minefield …
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